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JRoza · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject: VDS Browser once again

Hi,

I'm at a loss trying to use the browser dialog element.
Created this line via the Dialog Designer:

DIALOG ADD,BROWSER,BROWSER1,10,9,583,377,http://www.dialogscript.com

At runtime it always end in "invalid parameter to control"

I've looked in the scarse documentation someone provided a while ago in this forum but am unable to find out what's wrong.
Anyone any ideas?

Do you need to include vdsbrowser.dll as external dll with #define statements to enable the browser command and functions?

I just want to show a printfile I just created in html-format to the user in a preview window which has a browser element.

I think this browser element needs a good work-over with good documentation in VDS6.

Hope one of you can get me on the road again.

Rolling Eyes

Jan

jwfv · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:12 pm Post subject:

Yes, it is treated like any other external DLL. Add this to the beginning of your code:

external vdsbrw50
#define command, browser
#define function, browser

JRoza · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:58 pm Post subject:

Thanks!

I got it going now, so I'm back on track again.
I was mislead by the fact that the element is a standard element you can use in the Dialog Designer even without specifying the External bit.
The way the element now works is a bit of a hybrid partly built in partly external.
Sure hope this one will be more integrated in VDS6.

Very Happy

jwfv · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:55 am Post subject:

I agree. It would be nice to not have to include those calls for the browser element. I remember there was some discussion about how including it in the main VDS .DLL would increase the size quite a bit, though. Maybe there is some other way to make it an external .DLL (that has to be distributed along with your .EXE) but that has functions and commands that are already integrated into VDS. (No need to define them ... if the compiler sees that command, it looks for the VDSBRW50.dll).

Of course, there may be more to it than I realize and for simplicity's sake, treating it like other external .DLLs may make sense.

jules · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:07 am Post subject:

Serge · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:47 am Post subject:

i prefer to have the browser element not included with the vds run time file as this way you only need to include it in your distribution file if and when you use and this in turn reduces the run time file/distribution file of my programs

looking forward to...

JRoza · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:57 am Post subject:

I didn't mean to have vdsbrowser included in the runtime, as I agree that would make the runtime heavier with stuff not everybody uses.
I was mislead by the element being available in the Dialog Designer without it being clear that I needed to include the dll.
I'm perfectly happy now that I got things going.
The only complaint being the lack of proper documentation for this dll.
It could be integrated in the vds helpfile, but better would be to include a separate helpfile with the dll (just like most developers do with their dll).
That way anyone who wants to use the dll has the documentation at hand.

Wink

Jan

jules · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject:

Everything that comes with VDS as standard should be in the help file.

I've just been going through the help file and there is quite a lot of stuff that is missing or just plain wrong, including things that haven't been true since VDS 2 was around (remember dialogs being created in one big DIALOG CREATE command?)

Probably the only way to ensure VDS 6 has a decent help file is to do it myself...

Boo · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject:

There is no one more qualified. Cool

JRoza · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject:

I agree with Boo, no one can be better qualified than mister VDS himself. It seems if he is not minding the shop Commercial Research is cutting too many edges.

I really like what I read about VDS 6 until now......can hardly wait till it's ready.

Jan

Hooligan · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:08 pm Post subject:

It seems to me a new forum or even just a new thread could be created to post help page suggestions by those who feel a better write-up would be beneficial. That way Mr. VDS can concentrate on coding VDS 6.0, and then grabbing the suggestions and editing them as necessary when that time comes... If this gets me VDS 6.0 sooner, I am all for it! I'd be willing to edit some help pages for everyones benefit.

What do you guys think?

Hooligan

JRoza · Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:06 am Post subject:

I'm all for it.
Don't mind to do some work for a product I like and use so much.

Very Happy

Skit3000 · Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:52 am Post subject:

A little while ago, I suggested to make an interactive help file, where people can add comments to the help pages themselves. An example of such a helpfile is the online helpfile of PHP.net (example). This way, people can hand out tips and tricks to other VDS users and correct false statements in the help file... Smile

jules · Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:22 am Post subject:

jules · Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:24 am Post subject:

By the way, has anyone ever seen the VDS Application Wizard?