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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:21 pm    Post subject: Registration and Payment System Reply with quote

We have developed some code and wondering if its worth while creating a dsu for it...


Basically it will:

Allow you to make your program shareware, but allowing you to have an automated payment system...

1. You will disable variuos parts of your program which are unlocked when registered.

2. You can generate a unique keycode for your software.

3. Once the user clicks on buy now/register, they can be forwarded to your own website and to the php registration module... Where it will capture the program codes.

4. the user then enters the details you want to capture, name, address, email, etc etc

5. They are sent to paypal to pay, once they have paid, they ware redirected back to your site and the registration.php module then creates and activation key which the user copies to your program and the program is unlocked.

6. All information is stored and backed up in a mysql database on your site.

Requirements:
- You must have PHP and Mysql available on your web site domain
- VDS5
- Paypal Account

Is there any intertest, and if so any ideas on what people would be willing to part with for costs ? Wink

We have the code created to do all the above, just wondering if anyone would find it useful and whether or not to release it...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be interested. But not sure what kind of price you should ask for such a thing. Free would be best for me of course.. LOL Wink But seriously, you know how little VDS Tools/dlls/dsu files generate money wise for an author. You'll be good if you get maybe 10 people to actually purchase. Whatever the price (within reason) I'd be happy to be one of the 10 who purchase this.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also interested but cost would need to be reasonable. As Garrett mentioned... VDS apps don't generate a lot of income.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also interested, but I currently do not have access to the server's my websites are on so PHP and MySQL are out. Though I have been considering setting up my own web server. Which brings me to my question: How secure is the PHP and MySQL side of it? Could a determined hacker bypass the PHP and/or MySQL security and fake having paid via paypal? Or even worse, access or tamper with the key generation code?

PS I wouldn't want to spend too much on it.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One would have to be pretty determined to get hold of an app for free to do that and to be honest I can't see such an app being written in VDS. Many people have been using PayPal to accept payments for software (and other things). I forget the name of the one I use, but it is from Vibralogix. It uses PayPal's IPN system which is pretty secure as I believe it uses a call-back system to the PayPal servers to verify each transaction.

However, I would really question the sanity of anyone developing a new software product for sale using a development tool whose future prospects at this time are in doubt.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jules wrote:
However, I would really question the sanity of anyone developing a new software product for sale using a development tool whose future prospects at this time are in doubt.


The last I chatted with Emmanuel, he seemed pretty positive about the release of VDS 6 Question

Nathan,
I say release your tool at a fair price. 'Fair' meaning to you and others that may purchase it. Search for other software that have similar features and remember that your building it for VDS.
Personally I would build it for more than just VDS if I were to build such a program. It's a shame that VDS does not have the ability to build DLL's or external reusable components Sad

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be interested also.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, to keep the spirit alive...

Im going to make it freeware... Wink

I'll get it packaged up and ready for use.

It has not taken too much development time, since im a php & mysql programmer and i dabble in vds Wink ...

I'll post links and other info soon....

If anyone does not have access to php or mysql i can give you access/space on one of my servers... for the registration system.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Nathan... looking forward to seeing it. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rubes_sw wrote:
Im going to make it freeware... Wink

If anyone does not have access to php or mysql i can give you access/space on one of my servers... for the registration system.

Nathan, you are a legend!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit more info...

The registration module (in PHP), is encrypted and it uses the Paypal IPN, which in my opinion would be very difficult to hack/bypass.

The user can NOT fake a registration or paypal payment...

Only when the registration module receives comfirmation from the paypal IPN will the users activation key be generated.

You will be able to setup the registration module via (a variable file), on the options to use:

eg.

1. User Activation
- Instant (Will allow them to receive their activation key instantly)
- Email (Will email them their activation key - recommended)

2. Select which paypal account to receive payments to
- * You must have a valid Paypal account and you would setup Autoreturn, IPN etc we can provide instructions on this.

nathan

more info available soon Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very VERY cool! looking forward to it!

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm...

Theres one drawback to the registration system...

Its really secure but you would have to include the vdsblowfish.dll with your program...

Its 170Kb, but i have researched and feel this is the only viable option...

thoughts ?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fine by me.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rubes_sw wrote:
Its really secure but you would have to include the vdsblowfish.dll with your program...

Its 170Kb, but i have researched and feel this is the only viable option...

My installer already installs blowfish02.dll, so it's not a problem for me. I assume this is the dll you mean because it's the one I downloaded from the vdsworld website and it's 170KB.

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