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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 9:27 pm    Post subject: Services Reply with quote

Would it be possible for someone to write a C/C++/Delphi/etc. program
to let a VDS program run as a service? I know about SRVANY.EXE but
it isn't freely distributable (I think).

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know much about services but ability to run a service easily(especially NT) with a small sized dll is a double edged sword - I think.
People may use it to run malicious services and virii - Soon we may hear that a particular trojan/virus hits if U have VDSrun40/50.dll ! etc ?
I am not discouraging anyone, services could be very useful , each good thing has a bad face also. Just my personal opinion.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't really matter if a VDS program runs as a service, you can still
do malicious things already with VDS. You can do anything basically that
another programming language can do.

Sometimes running a service is necessary when you need to create an
application such as a security application, a shutdown timer, etc.

I highly doubt that a virus writer would use VDS to write a widely-known
virus, seeing as it would need the runtime and would just be generally
awkward as a virus.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That right. Somebody who writes a virus will probably use C, ASM or VB or another small language. VDS files are just too big to 'hide', and they can be identified by a virusscanner real quick, so I think most virus-makers know this and don't use VDS.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skit3000 wrote:
That right. Somebody who writes a virus will probably use C, ASM or VB or another small language. VDS files are just too big to 'hide', and they can be identified by a virusscanner real quick, so I think most virus-makers know this and don't use VDS.... Rolling Eyes


Umm I think there is a typo here Skit. You used VB and small language in the same sentence. Since when has VB ever been able to make a small executable? VB's runtime is almost 3 times the size of VDS'es? Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I bet almost every Windows PC has got them... Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skit3000 wrote:
But I bet almost every Windows PC has got them... Wink


Not mine Wink I don't put junk on my PC'es Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to check out the program on this page FF, it says you can freely use and modify it:
http://www.codeproject.com/system/xyntservice.asp

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great. Very Happy I'll be looking into that. Thanks. Smile
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