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LiquidCode Moderator Team
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:29 pm Post subject: Big Bug..or just me...but... |
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Ok, I was working on a DSU file that I was making, I created a DEMO.dsc file to text it...It worked ok once...then I ran the DSC again and it said could not find the DSU file...I looked in the dir and...EVERYTHING in the directory was erased except for the demo file I was working on... That really upsets me (biting my tongue because I want to say something much worse) . I spent 3 hours on the DSU file and now it's gone. I don't know how it happened, I'm not saying that VDS did it, but, I know that I didn't highlight the files and press delete. The DSU file had nothing to do with file operations. Anyway, I just thought I would let ya know just incase this would happen to someone else. _________________ Chris
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FreezingFire Admin Team

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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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1) Have you re-tested this to make sure it was VDS?
2) Did you look in the recycle bin?
3) Do you have any backup software?
4) Did the folder/filename(s) contain any special characters? _________________ FreezingFire
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LiquidCode Moderator Team
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| FreezingFire wrote: | 1) Have you re-tested this to make sure it was VDS?
2) Did you look in the recycle bin?
3) Do you have any backup software?
4) Did the folder/filename(s) contain any special characters? |
1) I tried, could not repeat the problem
2) Yes, not there.
3) Um, no (I'm at work)
4) No. _________________ Chris
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CodeScript Moderator Team

Joined: 08 Jun 2003 Posts: 1060 Location: India
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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I think you should always make a backup.
Avoid naming the DSU like :
| Code: | ~*.dsu
vds*.dsu
*temp.dsu
vdstemp etc
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to avoid deletion of the dsu.
OR the best thing would be to avoid putting the dsu in the same directory as the .dsc.
VDS also creates a ~vdstemp.dsu at compile time and this is deleted.
I am not sure if all the above names are risky ones but it is wise to avoid them.
I lost a dsu (I had source any way). I thought it was my absent mindedness - still think so.. Yet .. File was not in recycle bin. I never delete any file directly (shift delete).
I tried it several times to reproduce it (temp.dsu) but never happened again
Regards _________________ Regards
- CodeScript
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Dr. Dread Professional Member


Joined: 03 Aug 2001 Posts: 1065 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| CodeScript wrote: | I think you should always make a backup.
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Yeah, backup is really nice, but sometimes you don't think of it until you get to a point of no
return and your data is lost. Few people would think of making backups when they've saved
their work as normal and are still there working away on it...
Anyway: I have had a couple of instances where some source code files simply vanished in thin air.
Still have found no plausible explanation but it made me write a backup routine archiving source code
on-the-fly in alternative location. Until I read Chris' post I thought I was the only one
Greetz
Dread _________________ ~~ Alcohol and calculus don't mix... Don't drink and derive! ~~
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Garrett Moderator Team
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Are you using Windows ME?
-Garrett _________________ 'What you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others.' - Confucius (550 b.c. to 479 b.c.) |
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FreezingFire Admin Team

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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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I have gotten in the habit that whenever I reach a milestone or I
fix a major bug in code, I save a copy of the file somewhere else
under a different name and then resume editing the main one.
That way I don't need any backup tools.  _________________ FreezingFire
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Dr. Dread Professional Member


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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| Garrett wrote: | Are you using Windows ME?
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Nope, I'm not using WinME - I'm not looking for trouble
XP Home here!
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CodeScript Moderator Team

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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:10 am Post subject: |
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No, I am on XP Pro no sp1.
I initially thought may still be my absent mindedness but now it looks serious. But it may be very difficult to fix I guess because it occurs randomly and rarely.  _________________ Regards
- CodeScript
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LiquidCode Moderator Team
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:23 am Post subject: |
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I was using Win 98SE. It happened again after the initial post. I was just too pissed to post again. That time, I had a backup. Only lost a few min worth of work. I think is does need looked into, but, as stated it would not be easy to fine where the problem is. _________________ Chris
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Garrett Moderator Team
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:07 am Post subject: |
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I asked because I had a major problem with this under WinME... But
after I hit windows update and got all the fixes and bs from MS, the
problem vanished, like the source codes it took.
I also checked into the disk cache settings and fiddled with them aswell. So
that may have been part of the issue also.
All I know, is the problem hasn't happened since for me.
-Garrett _________________ 'What you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others.' - Confucius (550 b.c. to 479 b.c.) |
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Dr. Dread Professional Member


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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:13 am Post subject: |
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It shouldn't likely be the OS meddling here - I could understand if is was a question of temp files being removed
from @windir(T), but we're talking normal files saved on HD! I think no Win version will randomly trash files.
It's gotta be some glitch in VDS's savefile routine or somethin'. Anyway if several people have experienced this
it should really be fixed - as mentioned before few people will be thinking about backup when they have already
saved their work to disk as normal..
Dread _________________ ~~ Alcohol and calculus don't mix... Don't drink and derive! ~~
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CodeScript Moderator Team

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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:44 am Post subject: |
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I think an error something a overflow/underflow that occurs causes deletion of all the files in the directory as the .dsc file. Of course the .dsc file is not deleted becuse it is locked by VDS. The main headache is it occurs randomly and rarely. I am sure it can be something like a bolt from the blue for someone not having made backups and not having any unerase protection for file erase - like norton protected recycle bin.
If the file was created sometime back there is still a small chance that such utilities may help.
I only hope that this gets fixed real soon. _________________ Regards
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Dr. Dread Professional Member


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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| CodeScript wrote: | I think an error something a overflow/underflow that occurs causes deletion of all the files in the directory as the .dsc file. Of course the .dsc file is not deleted becuse it is locked by VDS. The main headache is it occurs randomly and rarely. I am sure it can be something like a bolt from the blue for someone not having made backups and not having any unerase protection for file erase - like norton protected recycle bin.
If the file was created sometime back there is still a small chance that such utilities may help.
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I have Norton Recovery Bin - I went straight there after "the mishap", unfortunately it had no trace of
the files in question..
Greetz
Dread _________________ ~~ Alcohol and calculus don't mix... Don't drink and derive! ~~
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