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FreezingFire · **Admin Team** Joined: 23 Jun 2002 Posts: 3508

I'd like to see VDS compiled in a more recent release of Delphi since the
controls that are used in that version of Delphi are the controls placed
on the VDS window. For example, the tooltips on elements are out of date
and would be using a better style (possibly this is because VDS doesn't
use the latest common controls library). The tooltips now always have an
extra space after them which drives me mad. For example, look at this
one:

As you can see, it has an extra space on it. Confused

I think it would also solve a lot of problems relating to how the GROUP
and SPIN elements don't update with a .manifest file. Confused

PGWARE · **Web Host** Joined: 29 Dec 2001 Posts: 1566

*cough* fixes the problems with the group and I think the spin element. The problem with the spin element is that Borland slopped together a generic spin element that does not use the correct pushbuttons and they do not update on Windows Xp. However using a normal edit box and putting a pushbutton on it will make it work perfectly and update the button in XP, you can also make the edit accept only numeric values - note to SADE. Also updating VDS to use the latest version of Delphi would make the vdsrun runtime alot larger then it is now.

As for the problem with the tooltip, it does the same thing here with Internet Explorer 6 when you put your mouse over any image that has an ALT tag, so I don't know if it's really a bug.

FreezingFire · **Admin Team** Joined: 23 Jun 2002 Posts: 3508

Actually it looks similar, but there's a few differences: 1) The tooltips in
IE in Windows XP fade in, as well as most other tooltips, but the VDS ones
do not fade in. Confused

Here's what it looks like in IE:

Now, for a direct comparison of the tooltips:

VDS:

Internet Explorer:

Then right next to each other:

As you can see, it's a little bit cleaner with the IE tooltip since it's a bit
more evenly spaced... It's not a big difference but usually makes me not
want to use the ToolTip element. Sad

PGWARE · **Web Host** Joined: 29 Dec 2001 Posts: 1566

It looks spaced evenly to me. I think it's just that the IE tooltip has a slightly larger height and has about .25 pixel border on the sides. It's possible to modify tooltips in Delphi so SADE may be able to do something. You should email them at support@dialogscript.com and ask this as a feature/change, otherwise they may not know about it or think the demand for such a change is not needed.

FreezingFire · **Admin Team** Joined: 23 Jun 2002 Posts: 3508

Thanks. I'm not sure if it's just me or if other people find it more pleasing
to the eye that it's a bit larger for the text. Confused

I will e-mail support@dialogscript.com and ask them.

Thanks again. Smile

GeoTrail · Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 1:00 am Post subject:

Looks like the tooltips are in different sizes.

Skit3000 · Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 12:46 pm Post subject:

That was a little late GeoTrail... Wink

GeoTrail · Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 3:04 pm Post subject:

Oh, sorry. Maybe I should get locked out of here at night time? Laughing

Can't seem to read properly at night Wink

FreezingFire · **Admin Team** Joined: 23 Jun 2002 Posts: 3508

It's okay GeoTrail. I'm glad that it's not just me that sees the difference in
the tooltips. Wink

ShinobiSoft · Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 4:53 pm Post subject:

I see an extra pixel or two of padding above and below the text in the IE
tooltip.

GeoTrail · Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 5:03 pm Post subject:

Anyways, looks like the VDS tooltip has a padding of 1 from the left and 3 from the top and 4 from the right and 0 from the bottom. IE has 2 from the left and 4 from the top and only 3 from the right and 1 from the bottom.

And that makes the sizes of the tooltips:
VDS: 106x15 pixels
IE: 106x17 pixels

vdsalchemist · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 1:35 pm Post subject:

Hi All,
There is nothing wrong with VDS 4.x tooltips. It is IE that is using a different style of tooltip. In Win32 you have a choice of how to center your text on a tooltip. You also have a choice of multi-line and other styles for a tooltip. VDS does not give you that option for tooltips because a tooltip in VDS is not a individual element. If you want full control over your tooltips then you may want to take a look at the modplayer example on my Gadget website.
Also one possible reason that SADE would do it this way is because of older elements that had tooltips were already done this same way.

FreezingFire · **Admin Team** Joined: 23 Jun 2002 Posts: 3508