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GregLand
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For information, the new version will mainly be dedicated to fixing bugs and compatibility with the latest OS.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!

In the next week, I'll be putting back up the source code for Visual DialogShell. I had minor licensing concern from an open source contributor, that caused me to pull the code. That code section has been replaced.

I am currently somewhat removed from Visual DialogShell, this happend shortly after completion of the project, because my beloved video game City of Heroes came back from the grave and I've been working on code improvements/modifications etc. with a small group of contributors.

I will try to redirect some of my focus back to Visual DialogShell, but maybe don't get too involved with it until 2020 because support might be lacking.

Thanks,

Brandon
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Source code for Visual DialogShell is now available at

https://github.com/brandoncomputer/vds

I sort of know that I'm more of a project starter than a project finisher.

Please feel free to fork this project, rebrand it, promote it, make money etc.

I will try to support the efforts as best I can.

dialogshell.com also likely won't last forever.

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Brandon
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Brandon, Emmanuel, GregLand and others! I briefly downloaded Brandon's files, it's still looking promising and with the source code available it can be a good self-supportable alternative to VDS.

For VDS itself, I'm not sure if the responsive website and Windows 10 support really are the most urgent issues with VDS. After all it would be unlikely that people are trying to do script programming right from their mobile phone. I think a better solution could be going 'back to basics', with for example:
- an actually available download executable for VDS, running on 64-bit and 32-bit Windows versions (see the attachment)
- possibility to always successfully purchase the product, possibly with help of a small site team for order fulfillment, like in the past
- short responses to questions within one week, even if it would only be an autoresponse pointing to purchasing options and a Frequently Asked Questions knowledge base
- an IDE that doesn't look cumbersome at initial launch, perhaps with a 'reset to defaults' button as well (for me the "Project Manager" pane always looks sloppy while collapsed and the toolbars don't look and feel quite right, see the second attachment with the find user interface controls not fitting the toolbar and a flickering animation during drag & dropping toolbars and panes)
- in VDS 6 and 5, I find it especially strange not be able to click the white rectangle and being able to start typing my script immediately (I needlessly need to click the New-button or even expand the File┬╗New menu option), unlike in older more basic and effective versions, such as VDS 2
- maybe ever a Node.js based emulation layer for running scripts (not the IDE-development environment) on all computer systems/webbrowsers, such as Apple macOS and perhaps Linux?

In the meanwhile I did some small changes to VDSWORLD, with a brand 'new' VDS 6.0 logo being available for stamping script/extension uploads.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Greg,

It was absolutely not my intention to 'kill' this topic with my last post. Is there any chance we can revert to positive talk again into getting this new version on the road? You and Emmanuel collaborating a bit on a new VDS release gave me high hopes after all and is the best chance on VDS revival since ages. Very Happy

The sole reason for my posts on the front page and topic was to trigger action and make the site/topic look less pale by posting some images. Nice to see some new action in another (old) topic today as well.

Cheers Worship,
Tommy

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For information, the new version will mainly be dedicated to fixing bugs and compatibility with the latest OS.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, Tommy.
Emmanuel has been very busy lately, and at the moment I could only test the version of Dialog Designer.
I haven't found any bugs on it yet.
The bug of the tables, fonts and font sizes... all this is fixed.

I'm looking forward to vds.exe, I currently only have a Beta version (which doesn't allow compiling) so it's difficult for me to test just because I can't test it in "production".

I'm also very excited to see this software upgrade to version 7 with big modifications, but we're not there yet Wink

No news of Emmanuel since March 18...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great news Greg! I hope Emmanuel is doing well. Look forward to a new version of VDS.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Greg, very exciting news about that beta! And who knows Emmanual would jump into this topic once again when the time is right. And even a small update paves the way for bigger ones, I guess Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there's going to be a new version of VDS, I hope it happens soon!

Right now I'm using various RPA tools for the company I work for (including DialogShell, but not much, and only in powershell form), I would absolutely love to be able to pitch VDS as a solution. The ability to think about problems in a solution I am natively fluent in would be a huge advantage.
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope so, too. It is expected to arrive this year, but it all depends on whether Emmanuel has time to finalize it.

I've been working with VDS every day for over 15 years. This is an indispensable program for me.

For the first time this update will not bring any new features, only bug fixes and adaptations for Windows 10.

I hope that the support of the x64 architecture will arrive quickly.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The past couple of weeks I've taken an avid interest in this project.

New functions include XML handling, encryption, Internet Explorer full automation (eternium) amoung other improvements.

I want to build a ton of simple to make wizards, and apparently this is going to stay a passion weather or not it gets traction.

I'm new to github, and I don't know how to manage pull request etc. but I'm willing to learn.

If you'd like, you can help me expand upon this project.

https://github.com/brandoncomputer/vds

The vision at this point is to add RPA methodology and wizards, maybe even client server relationships for automation, while still maintaining this as a code editor and not a flow/sequence/state machine editor.
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